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Lina
11-19-2007, 09:10 PM
I am trying to comprehend this injustice..

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/saudi.rape.victim/index.html


Is rape glorified in some countries where women are treated lower then animals?

I know that in alot of countries, the rapist gets jailed and in some instances, castrated.. But why punish the victims? :(

alimabrouk
11-20-2007, 02:24 PM
Lina! Do victims of rape by the Zionists in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine get justice? Do you know what is happening to the Iraqi women raped by American soldiers? Why doesn't your CNN report that?

Lina
11-21-2007, 10:36 AM
Lina! Do victims of rape by the Zionists in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine get justice? Do you know what is happening to the Iraqi women raped by American soldiers? Why doesn't your CNN report that?

You can not compare here Alimabrouk..

NO WOMEN DESERVE TO BE RAPED, no matter where they live, no matter their nationality..

My question is why, after the humiliation and torture, did they punish this victim?

As far as CNN, all the media is controlled by the governing sources, whether they be Zionists, Americans, Al-Quedan.. it's up to us, the middle people to believe what we want to believe..

I pity the pigs/monsters that do commit these crimes, they might think that they are getting away from it, but GOD sees it and HE will punish..

alimabrouk
11-21-2007, 10:48 AM
Don't accuse me of things I did not say. Can you read English properly? Go back and read properly what I said. I did not say that women deserve to be raped you idiot!!! What I said is why don't you protest about the women of the Middle East who are being raped by your friends the Zionists occupiers & oppressors including your American friends. Why don't you protest about women under Zionist occupation? DON'T YOU ACCUSE ME AGAIN OF THINGS I DID NOT SAY, YOU IGNORANT. RAPE IS EVIL WHETHER IT'S SAUDI OR ZIONIST. GO BACK AND READ WHAT I SAID PROPERLY, WILL YOU !!!!!!!

Lina
11-21-2007, 10:58 AM
Don't accuse me of things I did not say. Can you read English properly? Go back and read properly what I said. I did not say that women deserve to be raped you idiot!!! What I said is why don't you protest about the women of the Middle East who are being raped by your friends the Zionists occupiers & oppressors including your American friends. Why don't you protest about women under Zionist occupation? DON'T YOU ACCUSE ME AGAIN OF THINGS I DID NOT SAY, YOU IGNORANT. RAPE IS EVIL WHETHER IT'S SAUDI OR ZIONIST. GO BACK AND READ WHAT I SAID PROPERLY, WILL YOU !!!!!!!

I read it and your answer was a question totally different to what I was asking Alimabrouk..

AS FAR AS DOING SOMETHING FOR ALL THESE WOMEN, I AM. Have you not heard of organizations that are bringing to light the abuses women are having to endure? Our organization is worldwide and it includes every single race in the world.. Arabic, Hispanic, Caucasian, Negroid, Asian.. women all over the world deserve better.. and I am proud to be a woman and proud to stand with my sisters and protest and help victims worldwide..

As for me beiing an idiot, I really don't care what u label me, I only care that I am doing the best I can to help my sisters all over the world.

God bless u Alimabrouk and I pray you have a blessed life.. Huggies..

alimabrouk
11-21-2007, 01:46 PM
Hello Lina !! It Does Break My Heart Very Deeply Of Course For Me As A Man As Well To See Women Scarred Like That Physically Amd Mentally For The Rest Of Their Lives Because Of Rape. Rape Is Evil To Happen To Any Woman Or Man And I Do Wish You The Best Of Luck For Doing Something About It. I Wish I Could Do Something About It Too. In Islam, It Says If You See Injustice, Try To Change It. If You Can't Change It With Your Words then With Your Heart And That is The Least Theing You Can Do. Sorry For Calling You An Idiot And I Wish You Best Of Luck My Dear!

Lina
11-21-2007, 06:28 PM
Thx Alimabrouk, u can help.. in the city where u live, if there is any organization that helps stop the violence against women and childen and men, check and see how u can contribute.

Also, prayers always help..

Thx dearest friend..

Sweety
11-22-2007, 09:36 AM
As usual western media give one part of the story that serves some parties against others..

This girl is married & agreed to meet her x-boyfriend privately for a farewell meeting & so that he would give her photos he had of her..

As it turned out he had some friends with him & according to him she knew about this..

There were no signs of rape but rather of a consentual meeting..

All the fuss was because she was caught when he was driving her away from the house & she had to play the innocent part..

Had the citeria of "zina" in Islam been established, she would have been killed & had the rape been proven, all the men would have been beheaded by the sword..


I wish you hadn't made this comment ==>

Is rape glorified in some countries where women are treated lower then animals?


So what is next?? Why women can't drive??
God, I'm getting so used to this.. :yes:

Sihem
11-22-2007, 09:59 AM
Bonjour Lina et Sweety.
Le pire, c'est que la Saoudite se veut le guide suprême de l'Islam et agit contrairement aux préceptes de l'Islam et se permet même de taxer de koffar les pays qui ont des lois qui accordent aux hommes et aux femmes les mêmes droits !

(The worst that Saoudite considers itself the supreme guide of the Islam and acts contrary to the rules of the Islam and consider koffar the countries which have laws which give to the men and to the women the same rights!)

Rabbi yehdi inchallah

Bonjour Ali.
Vous, je sais que vous êtes pour l'égalité des droits à tous les humains indépendemment du sexe, race, religion ou culture ou autres.

Sweety
11-22-2007, 01:15 PM
(The worst that Saoudite considers itself the supreme guide of the Islam and acts contrary to the rules of the Islam and consider koffar the countries which have laws which give to the men and to the women the same rights!)

Hi Sihem..
This is not what most Saudis think..
Having the holy sites of Islam in Saudi doesn't mean that Saudis are the perfect Muslims..
Islam is a worldwide religion & we get many "fatwas" from non-Saudi clerks..
Please don't be so supportive of western views, which are mostly not true..

Sihem
11-22-2007, 03:00 PM
Please don't be so supportive of western views, which are mostly not true..

Bonsoir Sweety.
Merci de me traiter de telle !

Lina
11-24-2007, 12:23 PM
Had the citeria of "zina" in Islam been established, she would have been killed & had the rape been proven, all the men would have been beheaded by the sword..


I wish you hadn't made this comment ==>




So what is next?? Why women can't drive??
God, I'm getting so used to this.. :yes:



Sweety: The reason I say this is because if this were not true, organizations like:

RAWA in Afghanistan, CONCIENCIA in Argentina, CISFEM in Venezuela, WWHR in Turkey, CLADEM in Peru, BEDARI in Pakistan, MUSASA in Zimbabwe
, PUNTOS DE ENCUENTRO in Nicaragua, SERVICIO DESARROLLO Y PAZ in Mexico, LEAGUE OF LEBANESE WOMEN in Beirut, ASIWAR in Haifa, UPAWIN in Guatemala, WATC in Palestine, FLOR DE PIEDRA in El Salvador, HOPE FOR WOMEN in Ethiopia, AMARC in Ecuador, FE DE VIVIENDA in Colombia, DOMOS in Chile, CECYM in Argentina, CIM in Brazilia, AOCVFAUF in Canada, EGYPTIAN ORG FOR HUMAN RIGHTS in Cairo,








and several and I mean several others.. would not exist if it were not so..

We need to do our part .. worldwide.. for the future of generations to come..

Huggies..

Sweety
11-24-2007, 01:16 PM
My dear Lina..

Believe me I'm 110% with improving women rights in my country & the whole region. But I believe that we should base this on just causes & defend those who deserve it not people who try to miss use the system..

:wubclub:

del
01-05-2008, 03:18 PM
As usual western media give one part of the story that serves some parties against others..

This girl is married & agreed to meet her x-boyfriend privately for a farewell meeting & so that he would give her photos he had of her..

As it turned out he had some friends with him & according to him she knew about this..

There were no signs of rape but rather of a consentual meeting..

All the fuss was because she was caught when he was driving her away from the house & she had to play the innocent part..

Had the citeria of "zina" in Islam been established, she would have been killed & had the rape been proven, all the men would have been beheaded by the sword..


I wish you hadn't made this comment ==>




So what is next?? Why women can't drive??
God, I'm getting so used to this.. :yes:
So..... why women can't drive?

Sweety
01-06-2008, 12:53 PM
So..... why women can't drive?

Because we have drivers.. :biggrin:

Lina
01-06-2008, 03:07 PM
Because we have drivers.. :biggrin:

Grt one Sweety :)

that's wut men are made for :) :wubclub:

Sihem
01-06-2008, 03:49 PM
that's wut men are made for
At work, my driver is a woman

Lina
01-06-2008, 11:34 PM
At work, my driver is a woman. She is a gr8 driver!!!

Thus showing us women are gr8! We can do both jobs well done :) Thx Sihem :):wubclub:

del
01-06-2008, 11:35 PM
Women are good drivers! They drive men crazy all the time.. looooool

Lina
01-06-2008, 11:45 PM
Women are good drivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why I make them drive all the time.. :wink: I have been given a warrant not to drive during the week and only from 12:01 to 12:10 a.m. during the weekends.

Del, oh my del, If u need a ride, just let me know sweet one. I have a 2 passenger tricycle :)


Thx for ur encouraging words :) :wub:

del
01-08-2008, 12:23 AM
Del, oh my del, you figured us quite right. We drive men crazy all the time

Thx for ur encouraging words :) :wub:

You are welcome.

Leon
01-08-2008, 09:02 AM
jejejje,,,, bro yuo righrt

ubermensch
01-31-2008, 02:27 PM
Simply put, the consentual meeting doesn't make the sex consentual. Adultry is established by sexual intercourse. But who knows what goes through the Saudi mind. They surely adhere to the most literal form of religion. They like it this way, fine, i think it's religulous.